AN INTERVIEW WITH THE CREATOR OF THE WORLD’S BEST FANZINE
Sean before, trying to eat something.
On May 7, I felt a stream of bile me up the esophagus and oddly, it was not due to my excessive use of vinegar chips. Rather it came from disgust generated by the images of the large flowered ass Kim Kardashian at the Met Ball punk which was held at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. Have you seen this thing seriously? Punk! I was so disgusted that I almost became hippie.
A few days later, the conversation I had with Sean Aaberg, founder of the best fanzine of all time (and the world), I did not want to show drown in the St Martin canal. Over the past 25 years, Sean Aaberg was editor of many fanzines California, the same who acted organ rallying for the punk scene of the Bay Areades 1990s to today. Now relocated to Eugene, Oregon - a city famous for the anarchist community is an address - for three years running his own fanzine, Pork , along with his wife.
I discovered Pork falling on the Tumblr of Sean in 2011. The number was filled with character designs inspired Crumb / Johnny Ryan / Mike Diana and written with the same precision and the same humor that punk fanzines reference type Slash or Ripped and Torn. Since his debut with the Marked Men - his group - and his first fanzine, Goblin’s Armpit, Sean has been a champion of what he sees as the real rock’n’roll. Basically,Pork vehicle opposite values magazines and websites voluntarily objectives mag speaks only unknown groups, saps, and follows the same libertarian extremist punk ideology, sometimes Sean.
In 1979, the Mouse said in Déglinguée Weekend Wild : “It is certainly not dangerous to society! ”Sean is the antithesis of that thought. In addition to being an adorable and super funny guy, he is now the only person I still want to read.
Sean today with his son.
VICE : . Hi Sean That’s how long you’re running Pork?
Sean Aaberg: It’s been two years now. First, I co-founded an alternative weekly in Eugene, Oregon, where I live today - something called Bang! . It worked for a while until the editor gets tired of the format and he wants to give it a new direction. I wanted Pork is, you know, a kind of Coney Island to the scale of a mag. I wanted to do something that draws inspiration from all eras of American against-culture with rock and roll in the middle of everything. After yet another fight with the editor of ! Bang , I crossed and asked Katie - my wife - if she would join with me was founded Pork.
OK, everyone should do that. When did you start drawing?
I think I’ve always drawn. I remember as a kid, I already drew on the living room floor of my parents listening to the Beach Boys.
You read magazines at this age?
MAD Magazine was really the thing that gave me a reason to stick me seriously drawing. Basically, all I wanted was to fuck me from the jaws of the people and create disgusting stuff. Then the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics - they were alternative comics for kids at the time, black and white - have only confirmed my desire to draw and live in the sewers.
Guys like Mike Diana did they also influenced you?
At first, no. Serious work of Mike Diana was too upset that I like it in 10 years. However from the moment I realized I could really draw, I wanted to be Frank Miler and Simon Bisley and Katushiro Otomo.
What is this concept of ” weirdo art ” of which you speak all the time?
That is, if you want to summarize: rib eye out of their sockets, warts, suppurating buboes, open wounds, tubes and holes. Can rotten teeth, forked tongues, spaghetti with meatballs and fat fried chicken.
Weirdo art is a caricature of the grotesque in the extreme. The goal is to make everything that is disgusting and smelly fun to watch. Basil Wolverton overall invented the genre. But there are much older influences at Bruegel and Hieronymus Bosch, their representations of the macabre were already display a great sense of humor. It was almost a cartoon. Today, the weirdo art is all this art influenced by punk and focuses on cultural waste and jokes at the con. It has always been part of my daily life.
In this regard, if you had to choose between two punk fanzines, it would be Slash or Sniffin ‘Glue ?
Slash without hesitation. The concept of Sniffin ‘Glue kills, but the fanzine itself was shit. Still, it had a big influence on me because he was a kid, hmm, frantic. However, Slash is always worth a read today.
I started drawing when parents chelous flyers Danny Shoup - a friend who is the “Archeopop” column in Pork - bought a Xerox machine. It was our own flyers that left around town. The photocopier and the discovery of punk opened the way for me, quickly, we published our first fanzine, Goblin’s Armpit .
It was cool to be a punk cider in California?
Ah, ah, yeah. Alcohol helped me get my head above water at a time. I must say that I was straight edge until I was 18. I was not really into it but I was so against the bro culture American students that I have become. To abide by the rules of the punk era, I was also vegan, it lasted a long time. Then, at age 21, I decided to wipe my ass with these rules.
You did not belong to any scene shot?
When I was a teenager, I was often called “the ultimate American punk” or “Super Punk”. It’s a bit pompous but that was my goal in life, I wanted to become a lord of war punk. So I made fanzines, gradually, I became a prominent member of my own local scene, which eventually became what was called “the scene of the Bay Area.”
What you listening to?
I listened to all the hardcore stuff like THE Cirlce Jerks, Black Flag, Descendents of the early stuff and Germs. I had a UK82 phase where I spent my time listening Exploited, GBH, Discharge, Chaos UK, Disorder and Varukers. I was also connected anarcho-punk, I loved Crass, Rudimentary Peni and all that stuff. With Masked Men, we played with Ragady Anne, whose members later formed Oppressed Logic. They helped us find concerts but did not meet the dudes from the scene. Anyway they were not punk enough for me.
A flyer for a concert Sean KIng Khan in Toronto.
What did you do then?
We landed in the noise-punk scene. We played six different types of punk at the same time but nobody wanted to listen.
There were other fanzines other than yours in the corner?
Cometbus was the big fanzine of the East Bay. It was the work of Aaron Elliott and it was really good. He wanted to get some sort of alternative publication, as in the 1960s. Then he got screwed by the popularity he had himself created. Maximum Rock & Roll was the other big thing around the corner, it spun me hot stress! At the time I was trying to find a direction for my life and these guys succeeded where I failed. The pages of the fanzine contained such a relevant and raw content than simply reading it made me feel like I’m trepanning.
On the other hand, they knew to be boring, too. Their political delirium, among others.
Yeah, but with time I was able to appreciate the different ideas conveyed by MRR. I loved Profane Existencealso, they were focused on saps and guns. Their trick was to restore the status of folk punk threat - the kind of aggression that has always characterized heated me.
Otherwise, Roctober is the only mag that I read regularly for 20 years, I also worked a lot for them. It shows the kind of full syncretism of the punk scene - this is what I also want to get in Pork. Genre, it’s OK to love Sammy Davis Jr. and Chaos UK at the same time.
You had a favorite among all these names?
Yeah, it was Frank’s Depression Poetry , mag Frank Depression.
I do not know.
He was a friend, a guy in gold. Unfortunately, he got killed by a bouncer in New York in 1997.
It is because of this kind of stories Pork is sometimes openly aggressive?
Yes. It also benefits from living rather cool moment, the mass media are completely disconnected from everything. As for the alternative media, they are only interested in them. Pork just trying to promote the true rock’n’roll culture. We want to talk about sex, violence, leather, drugs and gather an army of charlots under a single banner.
I also saw were you doing think of swastikas everywhere, just to make you hate it.
Yeah, that’s it.
I landed on the Tumblr of a girl who fell into the trap and treat you a Nazi.
Yeah, it does not attract me a lot of trouble. But do not forget that I come from a leftist milieu. When I was a teenager, I wore these patches anti-fascist kind, the guy who swings a swastika in the trash, another that says “ a good fascist is a dead fascist ”, etc.. I even had an armband on which I had written “Nazi punks fuck off!”With a knife stuck in a swastika.
Ah, ah. You had met a bonehead in your life?
No, nor any Nazi punk. Remember that I am in Oakland. The Black kids fell down on the saddle where just humiliated me because I dared to leave my house with my look. Small White suburban fart also wanted my face and waved bottles on my chest. Trojan skins wanted to blow up my brother and me because we dared to point to ska concerts. The same thing happened to us with the anarcho-punks because they had the wrong color laces or because listening The Exploited. All this is bullshit. These antifa assholes, they are the real Nazis. All they wanted was control what I was doing.
It does not bother you to use this imagery?
I was not comfortable at the start. My wife Katie is Jewish, you know. But it does not have the same guilt that poor whites may feel … Anyway, each cons-culture in the United States has used these symbols. Whether hippies, metalheads, bikers, skaters, surfers and punks. Is that Robert Plant is a woman just because he has long hair and a falsetto? Sid Vicious Was Nazi because he wore a shirt with a swastika? Well, no, that’s my answer. The real Nazis are those sided with the politically correct, just waiting for one thing, you dictate your behavior. But if you try to find your guilty rather talk to my Jewish woman - the one who has a twisted mind!
You think Pork can have a real future with this?
I wish there was a shop Pork in each city could corrupt the children and make them want to listen to Little Richards, wearing iron cross and read comics that talk about vomit. I see us very direct TV channels and radios.
OK, thank you Sean.